Are auto site builders worth using? [Archive]

dougyt

08-22-2005, 03:42 PM

It seems almost daily there's another instant site builder being touted, but are you using any of them and do they work?
I personally tried Killerseo, which is ok for single pages at a time, and also tried Sonic Page Builder which can take any content (ebook or long string of articles) and make pages of a set length until the source comes to an end, but didn't feel it was up to the job of getting search engine traffic, as keywords were not constant when an ebook was used.
One other thing I have used is an instant software maker to make a page builder into which you can paste an article ( it contains the webpage template) and it's quick and easy to add single content pages when used with AC article fetcher.
What else is anyone using?

adsenser

08-23-2005, 12:55 AM

Greg59

08-23-2005, 09:57 AM

What is the software that you use?

Greg

glong

08-23-2005, 04:24 PM

Below is a site built with Directory Generator and the Adsense affiliate program, notice the page rank and quailty of the build, nothing compares to Directory Generator and we don't even use all it's resources. The site also demonstrates close to a flawless build of Adsense as suggested by Joel:

Vegas-Entertainment.com (http://vegas-entertainment.com) The interesting part is this site connects to about 5,000 pages and you'll have a very difficult time determining how it is accomplished, we had to ask. You'll notice it doesn't have one of those (Red Flag) site maps...

Directory Generator (http://lvindex.com/host/programs/DirectoryGenerator.html) - Avoid using the shipping templates, I know all these other programs mentioned in this forum and regardless of the program you may use, there is NO silver bullet for producing good content. If we do however use these programs responsibly, we'll be able to use them for a while without any problems or least the odds will be more on our side than not having them and starving.

I'm a software developer and we couldn't come close to Directory Generators' static page build with a program we developed called, "multi-site-generator." We have canned the software...

Joel Comm

08-23-2005, 04:33 PM

If you'd like to see close to a flawless build of Adsense links look here:
LVindex.com (http://lvindex.com)

Nice!

How about moving the AdLinks unit to the TOP of the left column instead of the bottom?

Why not include a third block at the bottom of the listings?

Joel

NorthOfTheCity

08-23-2005, 05:00 PM

Traffic Equalizer builds optimized pages from a keyword list. Each keyword gets one page which is built from a template. So, if you have 100 keywords for a particular niche, you get 100 pages created. I've created my own templates and I set up my sites a little differently than what its designed to do.

I have 5 sites up and running and get very little action. Using SEOElite software, I've determined that only the home page of each site is indexed by Google while most of the pages for each site made it into Yahoo. I used blog-and-ping to get the sites crawled.

So, does Traffic Equalizer work for me? It does in the sense that it quickly creates all the pages I need...as far as getting indexed in Google, I guess that's on me.

I also use ArticleBurner to rotate relevant articles on each page.

cell-phone-power.com (http://www.cell-phone-power.com)
get-voip-stuff.com (http://www.get-voip-stuff.com)

pamz

08-23-2005, 07:53 PM

glong,

I definately like what you have done with your DG sites!!
I had created 1 which I am in the process of tweaking so that it looks less like a DG site and more like a real "useful" site.

I guess your sites could be used as the proper way to create DG sites & mine could be, what not to do with DG sites.

Once I finish tweaking it should look better. (I hope)

biggles

08-24-2005, 01:27 AM

[QUOTE=glong]Here are a few links to pages built with Directory Generator, notice the page ranks and quailty of the builds and I don't even use all the resources to call.

This is very interesting. I have been using DG, with RSS Equaliser to get changing content, and Blog Power to blog and ping. I have built six sites and 4 of them were spidered and indexed quickly, and for 4 - 6 weeks weeks generated good adsense revenue. Then the revenue dropped dramatically. The SE spiders love the sites - google, msn and yahoo all make several visits a day, and I get 2 - 4 thousand hits a month from each of them to each site, but they only send a few visitors a week.

In notice on at least one of your sites that you don't have any articles. I know the articles are js so not seen by the search engines. I have been wondering if the js_rotator word in my page source is turning off the SEs. Is this the reason you don't use the articles?

There is also one really significant difference in your sites to mine, and I think it is probably the key. You are in a geographical niche. That means that when your newsfeed pulls content that is off target, it is still almost always geographically on target, so still seems relevant. With product based niches I constantly find sports personalities names, occasionally place names etc that match keyword terms, and similar stuff.

The last 2 of my sites were experiments in very highly competitive markets. Like the other sites the SE spiders are all over them every day, but I see one referral (except for one page mentioned below) from a search engine a day on one of the sites, and one a week on the other one. In both of these sites about half the keywords include a city name, but I suspect that the SEs see the site as not specific enough for them to rank any particular keyword generated page highly.

There is one page that makes an interesting exception. It has a two word keyword and one of the words is debticated. I didn't notice it when I was weeding out irrelevant keywords. That page gets more SE referrals than all the other pages on the site combined. The trouble is that this is a misspelling of dedicated, and anyone looking for dedicated anything is not looking for anything on my site! So the traffic does me no good.

KarlB

08-24-2005, 08:56 AM

Hi,
I looked at Directory Generator when it first came out. (After I had just brought Blog Power.)But I wanted to wait a few months and see how people were going with it. What with google banning similar sites that had been made with some of the other programs around..... and it being $397 odd..Plus I thought I'd given Armand enough money for a while anyway with all his other software.
I have heard that a few people had started to get sites banned lately. Has anyone here had this happen? I know there are heaps of DG sites about now. (Heck there is even keyword software to mine the DG sites keywords!!)
And people have been making $1000 plus a day in some cases. And then that Adsense revenue suddenly screaming to a halt.
But... I also read today that DG was one of 3 that were ok see here (http://www.timerway.com/blog/archives/2004/11/14/directory-generator-traffic-turbo-charger-or-metawebs/) .

I also read elsewhere that DG is ok if you change the 'footprint' and try and make them not look like a cookie cutter template etc. Other than saying I'm reading too much does anyone have any ideas? Who is right and who is wrong?

Cheers
Karl

dougyt

08-24-2005, 09:21 AM

Some interesting replies, but as someone pointed out these are quite expensive purchases to pay out first off. I've just gone back to KillerSEO to add some pages, and finding it's quite quick when used with article fetcher so I think I'll stick there for a while unless anyone knows a reason not to?

Tom Dean

08-24-2005, 10:32 AM

I have used Niche Portal Builder and Cash Page Builder.

This site here is (http://www.freepettips.net/dog-care/dog-health-care.html) my best "generated" performer. CPB was used for it.

One of my NPB sites did pretty good for a while but slowed down after few months. The standard template (which should be modified) is very basic but it worked well in the begining. Getting ready to try a few more.

XSite Pro can creat sites like this one (www.thomasdean.com/CreditRepair/index_02.html) very quickly if you already have some content. Great website maker to boot.

Still the best adsense site I have is this one whcih is not a generated site
httP://www.moreselfesteem.com

Tom

NorthOfTheCity

08-24-2005, 12:48 PM

Busy_Man

08-24-2005, 03:27 PM

With Google having recently gone public (and considering their huge earnings), I would think they have a commitment with their shareholders to continue that success (even if indexing junk pages) by not monkeying around.

I think Google has to worry about two things; Keeping shareholders happy by making money and keeping searchers happy by providing a good searching experience (sites with original content). I mean think about it, they could just let the marketers go crazy and flood the Internet with DG/TE types sites and make a ton of revenue in the short term, but then the searchers would all start migrating to Yahoo and MSN. Losing market share would cause revenue to plummet.

On the other hand they could make most all DG/TE type sites disappear almost immediately along with any sites with duplicate content making a great searching experience (original content everywhere you look). The problem here is that the marketers would migrate somewhere else and Goog's revenue would plummet.

So the bottom line is Google must maintain a happy medium between both. They let the DG/TE site run 4 to 6 weeks on average then they either ban or bury them. (I know, some of you may have DG sites up for months or longer, but for the most part they come down pretty quickly)

Just my opinion,
John

cozam

08-24-2005, 04:27 PM

Has anyone else had any beneficial results from page generators? If so what programs are you using. I had never heard of Cash Page Builder before.. so I am quite sure there are a lot of other similar programs out there besides Traffic Equalizer and Directory generator.

NorthOfTheCity

08-24-2005, 05:23 PM

On the other hand they could make most all DG/TE type sites disappear almost immediately along with any sites with duplicate content making a great searching experience (original content everywhere you look). The problem here is that the marketers would migrate somewhere else and Google's revenue would plummet.

It all boils down to how the terms "original content" and "great searching experience" are defined. In my case, I've included eBay listings, a relevant news feed and articles in order to try and provide something other than Adsense ads to visitors. The series of keyword relevant articles rotate between pages in such a way as to avoid duplicate content issues.

I've seen sites with TE generated pages that provide me with a "great searching experience" as opposed to many "original content" sites that are dull and boring. Beauty is in the eye...

So far as Google is concerned, they get to define what is good and what is not for their search engine. "Junk" site owners will just have to find some way to make their sites be more in line with the Google standards.

biggles

08-24-2005, 05:47 PM

From a business point of view Google must have their eye on the long term. If they are actually allowing the new DG etc sites, like some of mine, to have a revenue burst before they stop feeding traffic (as they have to mine) there is a reason. I have noticed that they spider me even more than before, just don't send visitors.
I think they are saying "hey you, there is money here, but you have to give me some original content (or change the look of your site so I think that you are giving me original or better targeted content) before I want to play with you again".
For sure the most important critical success factor for them is to have most people think they are the place to go for search, and then to make money from those searchers.
If they ever reverse that to make money from current searchers, and figure out how to retrieve the searchers they have lost later, they will go the way of many others.
My opinion is play the game that gives value to the searchers and incorporates google adsense into the process, and I am experimenting with ways to build my DG type sites into content sites without using a start again approach.
The DG type sites will, I think, always have a place for things like mis-spelled keywords, and opportunistic keywords.

dougyt

08-25-2005, 03:04 PM

This is interesting information, but doesn't the Google sandbox come into play? I heard (it may be so much bovine faeces) that Google will index a site, rank it highly, then drop it after a few weeks, and see if it remains after that. It certainly seems that way for many of my sites.

Any input?

Busy_Man

08-26-2005, 10:29 AM

I've seen sites with TE generated pages that provide me with a "great searching experience" as opposed to many "original content" sites that are dull and boring. Beauty is in the eye...

Yes North I agree, for those like yourself who know how to add value to TE/DG type sites it can be a good searching experience. I don't think the Goog would have a problem with it if all TE sites were like that. I think the problem for Google comes in when people just buy TE and slap thousands of pages of nothing up on the net. Unfortunately that ruins it for us all.

John

PS How does that saying go? Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder :D

Deb29

08-26-2005, 01:48 PM

I keep hearing that these sites are being dropped by Google, even some that have made changes to remove the 'fingerprints'. So it makes me wonder is it worth it to build these sites? Are people still making much money with them?

Deb

force5

08-26-2005, 04:25 PM

hi all

i have a number of these site builders..

Niche portal Builder
Article Automator
Article Equalizer
Traffic Equalizer

The secret when going this route is to build and keep building, so when (not if) your site gets dropped it has already been replaced by another site..

Nowdays I use the article ones to collect articles that i then put into another CMS (mambo is my favourite) for longer lasting sites.

Everyone mentions Google all the time, I have sites earning me $1 a day and they get no traffic from google at all, $1 isnt much but if i can get 100 sites doing the same then i have $100 a day which is a nice income (to me)..

I just came back from lunch with a fellow net head (who earns $150-$180 a day offline working for himself fixing peoples pcs and about $15 a day in adsense..) and he was suggesting buying domains and putting up a couple of pages then leaving the site for 3 months and adding some more pages then in another 3 months go and add loads, the time delay will overcome the sandbox effect (he hopes)..

Keith H

08-26-2005, 07:45 PM

But... I also read today that DG was one of 3 that were ok see here (http://www.timerway.com/blog/archives/2004/11/14/directory-generator-traffic-turbo-charger-or-metawebs/).

Did you notice when that article was written? It's from 11/14/2004. That info is outdated by now — don't trust it.

Keith

dragonian

08-28-2005, 09:23 AM

I looked at Directory Generator when it first came out. (After I had just brought Blog Power.) But I wanted to wait a few months and see how people were going with it. What with google banning similar sites that had been made with some of the other programs around..... and it being $397 odd..

*** It is not worth forking $397 for Directory Generator and only to have
your site banned by Google.***

Plus I thought I'd given Armand enough money for a while anyway with all his other software.

***Armand is already big and successful, and so it goes that the rich becomes richer. Perhaps we can buy from somebody who is yet small
and can provide personalized support for their products.***

I have heard that a few people had started to get sites banned lately.

***Very true, not just a few but many people. Many people who build
their websites with page generation software like Directory Generator and
Traffic Equalizer and others had their webpages banned by Google and only left with the index page or homepage.***

I also read elsewhere that DG is ok if you change the 'footprint' and try and make them not look like a cookie cutter template etc. Other than saying I'm reading too much does anyone have any ideas? Who is right and who is wrong?

***The size of the footprint left by DG, TE and other programs is as big
as the size of King Kong's footprint. Even changing the templates will not
help. The Search Engines had already catch up with these Automated Site
Generating Programs and with Google, they are hiring people around the
world to personally look at websites whether it is full of content or full of
crap that needs to be banned. I guess you would be better off in the long
term to build sites that have full of contents in it.***

dragonian

08-28-2005, 09:57 AM

After hearing from different sources that generated "junk" pages are disappearing from Google and that those who've made $1000 a day with them are now down to $100, it makes me wonder why Google would ban these pages. If people were making a ton off them, was not Google as well?

It seems that Google wants only pages with tons of "content" that appears to have been built by hand over many hours. They want pages to be "interesting and fulfilling" to visitors, at least in the way that Google defines "interesting and fulfilling". For the life of me, I don't know why.

With Google having recently gone public (and considering their huge earnings), I would think they have a commitment with their shareholders to continue that success (even if indexing junk pages) by not monkeying around.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

***Take a look at it this way. Adsense exist because of Adwords. The
people who advertise on Adwords can have their ads seen on other peoples
content thus we have Adsense. These people who advertise on Adwords
want to maximize the cost effectiveness of their ads and the last thing that
they want is for their ads to appear on a junk website created by the likes
of DG, TE and others which will only drive their advertising cost higher.

It is true that Google also makes money when someone clicks on Adsense links but think about it, if Google will allow Auto Generated Pages to dominate their search results pages, what will happen to Google? I guess Google will
no longer be the no. 1 Search Engine because all the results that would come
up are junks and craps. Wasn't it that because of its highly targeted results,
it was what made Google no. 1? Remember those times when you use other
Search Engines, you search for something but you get something else?

If Google is no longer the no. 1 Search Engine or as big as it used to be,
will the people who advertise on Adwords still advertise on Google. Perhaps
not. And if that happens, what will happen to Adsense? What will happen
to our efforts in making Adsense money?

In effect Google is not just protecting its owners and stockholders but also
the people who do Search on the Internet and importantly us, who dreams
of making money through Adsense!***

jtl909

08-30-2005, 07:46 AM

anybody use metawebs?

if anybody responds i'll tell you all about how i feel about it.

-mjg

jtl909

08-30-2005, 07:58 AM

what i've decided is that there's a small niche of people who crank out these site/page/content generators and that they are *barely* one step ahead of the search engines. well...what happens in a few months? google recognizes your bunk site and you're listed as just that....another bunk site! (nathan anderson, i hope you're reading this)

all of the "easy money" software products i've seen are just snake oil compared to producing a well built site with quality content on your own.

some advice from myself...stop searching for the new easy-breezy software program out there because the guys hired by the search engines are pretty smart and it wont take long for them to figure out your ruse. if you think that you've got one step ahead of them, well, think again.

best wishes,

-mike g
Green Tea PhD (http://www.greenteaphd.com)

golden14

09-01-2005, 10:47 AM

Anyone had any experience of Traffic Turbo Charger? Ease of use, revenue return etc

Serendipity

09-07-2005, 06:25 AM

Below is a site built with Directory Generator and the Adsense affiliate program, notice the page rank and quailty of the build, nothing compares to Directory Generator and we don't even use all it's resources.:
..

I am also using Directory Generator but I can't see how you made your site look so different. Would you mind explaining how to do that? I tried taking out those thumbnails as they are so often blank, but I can't work how to change anything else.

As far as them being junk I try to make them useful. I use articles and Rss feeds and I think a directory site can actually be useful to people. After all Google is a directory too.
Liz

glong

09-08-2005, 11:39 AM

In Order to have a DG (http://lvindex.com/host/DirectoryGenerator.html) site look different you'll need some other tools. Just as carpentar has many tools for building a home, we need many tools, and if done correctly can very rewarding.

DG has tools called tokens that look like %ARTICLES% and so forth that can be implemented into a regular web site template created from Front Page or whatever that will pull in this case (Articles) from articles entered in the appropriate space. The trick in adding good content that looks like the Google Adsense ads is to copy and paste the content from affliate web pages and build them two ways. One with what is a called a summary link view, that secondly links to what is called a full page view from a program called csArticles or csProNews (http://lvindex.com/host/programs/scripts.html).

You don't have to know anything to copy and paste hundreds of great pages of content to the DG site from YOUR affiliate provider but the summary links that are created from csArticles or csProNews (http://lvindex.com/host/programs/scripts.html) are an excellent way to emulate Adsense Ads(answering some questions from some who are writing me and asking - how).

The DG site material is on the bottom that connects the dots to the results template page which is also custom built to reflect the site.

Anyways, the Articles program allows you to add articles from the web not via FTP and adds content to one single template which looks like, guess what - the rest of your site, which of course is going to be built around ads and other borders. Each article that is added is automatically put in 2 places, the summary link and the full body article creating two pages of content.

From this point the article program which IS NOT automatic feeder type stuff is copied and pasted one at a time will generate a link either in SSI, Java or direct that can be pasted to the template and thereby loading a set of summary links that look just like Google Adsense ads as Joel is recomending from his program.

So to answer some who have been writing me, this is how it's done.

double nickel

09-09-2005, 01:19 PM

So to answer some who have been writing me, this is how it's done.

This is an excellent post by "glong" on several different levels.

He has demonstrated a valuable technique that elevates the use of a program like DG from the realm of "just another piece of automated software that churns out nothing but links", to a great tool that produces summary and full article content useful to both readers and engines alike.

This is how you "add value" and bump adsense revenues at the same time.

Yes, he used an additional tool to get there, but I guess that's one of the differences between what "most people do" and those who take an extra step to win the race.

I've always wondered how some users are able to avoid that giant footprint formed by DG, TE, NPB and others. Now I know. Thanks glong.

Al

bloodwrath

09-09-2005, 02:09 PM

Killerseo looks interesting
but its not index'd by google and has no backlinks
this sets off a RED flaq in my books
but after doing a whois on it

Creation date: 25 Jun 2005 04:47:13
greats site to check out whois info
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=killerseo.com
the main page is
http://www.dnsstuff.com/
use the WHOIS Lookup Enter domain name (or IP)

its very new.. so that might be why
ill check yahoo & msn for links and pages index'd
yahoo & msn have 4 pages index..
i always check this out before i buy software..

ill pass on this on for now..

tors

09-23-2005, 07:34 PM

I've got a long topic about how to use directory generator
websites to earn money from Google adsense on my forum.
And my conclusion after testing these websites for three months is.
Don't use this if your not willing to add new sites every day.
They are no good after only a month or so.And a lot of these sites don't get any visitors at all in the first place.
So try to build quality sites that people find useful and that you are passionate about.
Anyway,for those that are interested to follow the topic on my forum can visit How to make adsense mastery sites (http://everypleasures.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33)

philg

09-26-2005, 06:19 PM

Killerseo looks interesting

Odd, this looks the same as www.seohammer.com

It looks like one of those program-of-the-month club things which seldom seem to be worth it.

Anyone used either of these?

Phil G

lindmar

09-27-2005, 11:46 AM

Site builders work well for me.
I make good money from a ton of sites created with site builders.

Larry

09-27-2005, 01:10 PM

hey phil and jason,

drop me a note at larry (@) upbus.com and I'll send you a copy of seohammer so you can report back here...good or bad..don't hold back. It's not a page generation tool but it does make some very tight and well structured websites. there is a small curve as you get accustomed to using the web based interface but I think all-in-all you will like it if you want to develop regular sites that will make you some money.

Larry

philg

09-29-2005, 09:48 AM

Killer SEO
Ok, looks like I may have been wrong about this one....

First of all it doesn't really belong in this category as it is not really a page generator. By that I mean, it will not generate thousands of "scraper" pages like Ranking Power or the others being discussed in this thread.

It is more like XsitePro in that it does help you to create very SEO friendly pages and each of those pages will have real content for the search engines to feed on.

I am still in learning mode, but will report back shortly on my thoughts. As of right now I would say that it looks to be a better buy than XsitePro for two reasons. XsitePro, at $247 is highly overpriced, in my opinion. At $69 KillerSEO is a bargain and since KillerSEO is a server application it should be a lot easier to create sites and make changes without having to upload pages all the time.

Anyway, look for a full report shortly.
Phil G
www.AdsenseTracker.com

Larry

09-29-2005, 10:09 AM

Ok, looks like I may have been wrong about this one....

First of all it doesn't really belong in this category as it is not really a page generator. By that I mean, it will not generate thousands of "scraper" pages like Ranking Power or the others being discussed in this thread.

It is more like XsitePro in that it does help you to create very SEO friendly pages and each of those pages will have real content for the search engines to feed on.

I am still in learning mode, but will report back shortly on my thoughts. As of right now I would say that it looks to be a better buy than XsitePro for two reasons. XsitePro, at $247 is highly overpriced, in my opinion. At $69 KillerSEO is a bargain and since KillerSEO is a server application it should be a lot easier to create sites and make changes without having to upload pages all the time.

Anyway, look for a full report shortly.
Phil G
www.AdsenseTracker.com

That's SEOHammer phil ;-)

To clarify. They are the same program. I think it is one of the best values in server side site development if you want to build long term keyword targeted sites (as opposed to churn and burn sites with a page genertor). I do both types of sites so seohammer has been a good tool for me. The price at seohammer is $50 not $70.

Larry

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10-01-2005, 06:44 AM

There's many ways to build sites.

Portal or scraper sites generate lots of incrdibly easy AdSense revenue but people say the they will get de-indexed by Google.

These sites are getting their income from Yahoo and MSN and, as it takes half-an-hour to create a site, these people are creating three or four a day in their spare time.

As for being de-indexed, they are constantly launching so the new ones far outweigh the old ones. Plus, if you alter the template, the SE's don't see the footprint.

As I see it, most are here because they want to make money from AdSense.

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JON

jayu

10-03-2005, 02:39 AM

Hi glong and Phil,

Can you post some list of websites created through csArticles and seohammer. Phill can we creat various categories in a website through seohammer?

Please advice.

Jayu...

Syntheticore

10-05-2005, 12:47 PM

Hi Jon,

I'm interested in keyword avalanche, but I have a few questions:

What program do you use to set up your web sites, and how many do you set up per day or week?

Also, how much money do you make per month using this knowledge?

Thanks!

migumbo

10-05-2005, 11:27 PM

isuccess

10-05-2005, 11:38 PM

Nifty program indeed. But there is a way to take it to the next level. :)

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10-06-2005, 12:13 AM

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I do see some differences in the offer but the basic program seems to be the same.

Larry

10-06-2005, 07:38 AM

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You can select from whichever offer you prefer:

1) Buy seohammer for a discounted price of $35

OR

2) Buy seohammer for the retail price of $49 and I'll include in your purchase price an article management script..this is a VERY nice high end script that I have some big plans for in the future.

Either way, send me a PM and I'll send you the link for whichever offer you prefer.

Larry

Last call on this! Closing this offer this evening.

migumbo

12-14-2005, 03:49 AM

Larry

12-14-2005, 06:52 AM

Hi mate, can you send me through your article script? :)

I've got an article rewriter up and running which I might be able to use it with ?? ;)

Guys, have you been over to http://forum.profitpuppy.com - I think it's going to be another good forum once it's gets going.

Sure Mate...can you send me through $49? :)

I've got a lunch date that I might be able to use it with ;)

larry@upbus.com

migumbo

12-14-2005, 04:37 PM

I'll give you $2.50 ?

Larry

12-14-2005, 07:10 PM

I see your math skills are on par with your reading skills.

I'll pass....good luck to you though.

I'll give you $2.50 ?

migumbo

12-14-2005, 07:12 PM

I was going to be nice and give you my article rewriter script ;)

WAS....
:D

Adsense Guru

05-04-2006, 11:17 AM

or.. you could just use teh FREE metawebs clone over at www.nichemillions.com

just my 2c

bigwillstyle93

10-29-2006, 10:22 PM

They do work, if you select the right ones. I don't prefer to go in for the ones that just list search engine results. I use a software which pulls up articles from different sites. I found that to work very well.

If anyone is interested in knowing about the software I use, just send me a message.

I'm using directory generator right now with some not so good results. Please send me some info if you dont mind.

Bigwillstyle93@yahoo.com

ladykate06

11-03-2006, 04:24 PM

I am SOOOOO lost using these two disc, after reading and listening, I feel like I'm learning Swaheelee... see I can't even spell that!!!:)
The templates for the website photos have NOTHING for me, unless they are just there and you have to find something to replace them, and then all the processes seem to me to be quite harder than just using my "Website tonight" from Godaddy's templates... then adding in the AdSense stuff. I'm so stressed from trying to figure it out, I don't mind embarrassing myself to admit it and get help. I've paid for every tutorial offer that comes to me and still this part is losing me.. or my mind. ANY HELP THERE? Thanks and I wish all of you success. LadykateThey do work, if you select the right ones. I don't prefer to go in for the ones that just list search engine results. I use a software which pulls up articles from different sites. I found that to work very well.

If anyone is interested in knowing about the software I use, just send me a message.