STILL not indexed by google!!! help please

[bass_shredda]

Hi,
This is my first post here. About 2 months ago I submitted my site to google (bad mistake I know) but am still not indexed. I have a google sitemap on etc. Some pr5 and 6 backlinks and I do not know why I'm not indexed yet.
Any help would be grateful.
Cheers!

[Erik Geurts]

Is your site not indexed at all? Or is the problem that you haven't got a page rank yet?

[bass_shredda]

both... :-(

[Erik Geurts]

what is the URL of your site?

[bass_shredda]

http://www.elite-ebooks.com

[Erik Geurts]

http://www.elite-ebooks.com

I get "Server not found".

[bass_shredda]

sorry I had server problems, please see http://www.elite-ebooks.com/

Cheers

[Erik Geurts]

You say you submitted you site to Google? Using www.google.com/addurl ?

I may take longer than two months for a site to show up (to get out of the sand box basically). A little patience...

[bass_shredda]

Hmmm... yeah its just annoying, I just wondered whether there was anyway of speeding up the process.
Cheers anyway

[ezymoneyathome]

Hey Bass

I had just put my page up on my host. I realize that its hard to get on google quickly and may not work for everyone. If you have a copy of Joels book you would see sections on RSS feeds and blogs. I know they work.

I used a blog and an RSS feed and had my page indexed by Google within 4 days. I also had it indexed with YAHOO and MSN within a day. Also not only did MSN index my main page but indexed all my pages from the site.

I also used a few great link exchanges at the same time.

Hope This Helps Kevin

[AuctionMan]

Site shows links in msn and yahoo using seo toolbar but as you say zero in google.

When did you get the backlinks from the pr5/6 sites? You sure they are linking to you? Which sites (if you dont mind :) ) are these from?

Also all the links on your homepage seem to link back to your homepage apart from the top left menu ones? Any reason for this?

[Erik Geurts]

I registered a new .com domainname a few weeks ago but haven't gotten around to putting a website on it. But to my surprise it is already listed with Google (obviously not through any form of content, but by searching for the domain name it can be found). The PR is still 0, but that is better than "n/a".

I think this can be attributed to the fact that Google became a registrar a few months ago and therefore has information regarding all newly registered .com domain names.

Same thing happened a few weeks earlier with another .com domain name. And it started showing up in the search results within a week from bringing the website online.

[gamiziuk]

Bass, I just noticed that your site uses frames. You need to add a NOFRAMES tag and put in the same text as you have in your Meta Description area.

[Sbabb]

If you submitted to Google, you're probably in the sandbox.

While you're waiting to get out, definitely ditch the frame and transfer the site onto the primary domain web server. If you don't, Google won't see any of your content when it spiders. All it will see is the URL cloaking frame.

For readability, I recommend not having everything centered on your FAQ page (or any other page, for that matter.) Centered text paragraphs are hard to read. Good old-fashioned left-justified text is the easiest to read.

I'm still not convinced that Page Rank means much of anything at all. I had #8 position in Google with a PR0 site. Then again, it's dropped to #87 in the past few days, so maybe there is something to PR...

There are naughty tricks that can conceivably give a PR9 to a page that's not even indexed in the Google SERPs (but still in the sandbox, though. You do need to have the Googlebot crawling your site for it to work.) These tricks can get your AdSense account shut down, though, if you use them on a site with AdSense on it. Someone once got their site ranked higher in Google than Google itself for the keyword "adsense"!!!

You're right about not submitting your site. Google and MSN have my site completely indexed and in somewhat reasonable positions (#8 on MSN; Used to be #8 on Google but I've been both #19 and #87 today, so I'm not sure what's up there.) Yahoo, on the other hand, only has four of my pages indexed according to siteexplorer and I haven't been able to find them in the top 200 or so listings. I made the mistake of submitting the site to Yahoo. Google and MSN found it from blog-and-ping and inbound links.

The only thing I'll submit a site to now is dmoz, and they take forever to look at your site and put it in their directory anyway.

Your best bet may be to work on getting as much non-Google traffic as possible while you wait to get out of the sandbox. Write a couple of articles and submit them to the free article directories with your site linked in the resource box. Work the blog-and-ping angle as much as possible to get a decent ranking in MSN and Yahoo and the RSS directories. Consider putting an outbound RSS feed on your site. Definitely kill the frames. Maybe run some kind of contest and announce it on the various contest sites.


Scott

[netjobs]

Actually his site... (www.elite-ebooks.com) it shows in the address bar, but actually site opening is http://elite-ebooks.rr7.co.uk because of using frames and might using javascript... and also it seems http://www.elite-ebooks.com is for sale... :eek: :confused: is it true... ??

[mgrcentral]

If you do a 'view source' you will see what the search engine sees - very little to see from a SE point of view.

[allpedal]

Like above, I see your links as http://elite-ebooks.rr7.co.uk/stop_smoking.html and not elite-ebooks.com/stop_smoking.html

from what I've read before, this wont' help you at all

[rk_king2004]

Hi,
This is my first post here. About 2 months ago I submitted my site to google (bad mistake I know) but am still not indexed. I have a google sitemap on etc. Some pr5 and 6 backlinks and I do not know why I'm not indexed yet.
Any help would be grateful.
Cheers!
Hay Bass,

Not a whole lot for google to index, you need to build a real website to get index into google.

I am sorry to hit you hard, bit its better to know than to be wasting precious time working on this site into google.

[bass_shredda]

Thanks for your responses they are much appreciated :)

"try to build a REAL site" I don't get what you mean.
I am trying to sell ebooks and thought a website would be a perfect way other than selling them on eBay.

[golden14]

Okay, Normally I blog and ping, get indexed with no problem, but I have one 'Broadband' site that no matter what I do won't get indexed in 'G. Yet (And check this out) - every site that I've bought in the past month through my favourite name register has automatically got the homepage indexed in google in 24hours - In most cases before I've even uploaded anything! Anyone any ideas - I've had this happen on 4 sites so it's not a one off. And as per all my posts this is not an affiliate link plug, so no I'm not giving out who I use as a name registrar!
It's like the whole world order has shifted.......

[Erik Geurts]

I bet these are .com domain names (you don't buy sites, I assume, but domain names and later place sites on them).

Some time ago Google became a registrar for .com names and I think that gives them access to all new registrations immediately. That allows them to know about websites even when the publisher 'forgets' to submit them.

This same process will not work (yet) with other top level domains.

[golden14]

Eric, Thanks for this, you're right I buy the names and add sites, it's just bizarre after so much effort pushing one site to see another 'spring' up! I think this will be news to a few people.

[bass_shredda]

yep same thing happened to me. All my new ones are getting indexed.