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Moriones
08-23-2005, 04:51 AM
Hi.

I've just found this adsense layout. It uses the 4 image above adsense code tip plus some other clever tricks.

I specially love:

" Explore My Drug Testing Information Pages... " to introduce the adsense code

Take a look at:

http://www.drug-testing-guide.com/index2.htm


Bye

tsutton
08-23-2005, 05:10 AM
I think it's disallowed...

See http://www.adsensechat.com/showthread.php?t=208

kthaman
08-23-2005, 10:57 AM
Has anyone got an email from google stating that they cannot use the pictures above ads? Just curious if it is disallowed or not. I use pics for one of my sites and have not heard anything from google. You can see my setup at silicone wristbands (http://www.supportusa.org). Putting the pics up has really helped my CTR

JohnBarker
08-23-2005, 12:08 PM
There was an extensive post on the Warrior Forum that included examples and letters back and forth with a Google Adsense rep.

Basically, Google's concern is the pictures do not appear to be paired WITH the ads. There must be a clear distinction, such as placing a colored table (borders are NOT enough) behind the images or using a colored background with your ads that is different from the page - ie, pictures with white background above Adsense with white background, is a no go. Pictures with black background above Adsense with white background - OK.

If someone looks at the pictures and it is not clear that the pictures do not belong with the ad, then you will probably get (eventually) a letter from Google stating violation of terms.

It didn't seem like this was grounds for suspending anyone's account - the rep seemed very willing to provide detailed feedback and the publisher of the site provided numerous examples for forum readers, as well as the rep. The rep responded with what was OK, and not, and what I wrote above is the essence of it. I think you could push your luck and be fine, but you should also know what's likely to draw Google's negative attention. Since Google empowers their people to be pretty subjective, the "wrong" rep might make life tougher.

Best wishes, John

Smartzville
08-23-2005, 03:15 PM
I've just recently started implementing images *beside* ads to see how that works out.

The site is only a few months old so not many visitors yet, so I can't comment on effectiveness. And, there's still much work to be done on the site...

Wild Birds

One problem I'm seeing with this technique is that google has changed the way it is serviing ads. I've had pages load with 1 ad instead of 4 - sometimes 2 ads. It's a new ad-serving technique - and the images don't always look so pretty as a result!

Laura

Brendon
08-23-2005, 03:19 PM
John,

Your reply was helpful and I think it really goes to show folks that it pays to err on the side of caution and; that it's also up to the individual site owner as to how much they are willing to risk.

In some instances site owners who's sole source of income is Adsense will not want to mess around and risk termination.

Smart site owners will always have a primary affiliate and a secondary affiliate as two sources of income. Even Smarter site owners will check with Google reps to ensure they don't violate the T&C if they are unsure.

Thanks for sharing info from the Warrior forum John.

Cheers,
Brendon

derrickp
08-24-2005, 02:30 AM
The post on the Warrior Forum was very helpful since a Google representative was involved in the matter and asked the person to make the ad look more like and ad and distinguish it from the pictures.

Overall I would use this at your own risk and personally I am not going to risk it. I will continue building content and working hard testing and tweaking.

Derrick

tctan
08-24-2005, 04:11 AM
For those who really keen in doing this type of layout, I may suggest after you putting the new layout (with image), you may email adsense team and ask their advice about your new layout and keep all the communication between you and adsense, just in case.

You may also want to check Rober Plant's free script which will help you to add the image on your site at
http://www.picsensor.com

Moriones
08-24-2005, 10:05 AM
That's a very good advice and a great resource.

Thanks a lot!

Yours in profits.


Francisco Moriones

jruiseco
08-24-2005, 12:46 PM
I had not considered the little phrase above the images. That's a great idea...

Josen

whoops
08-24-2005, 03:36 PM
One problem I'm seeing with this technique is that google has changed the way it is serviing ads. I've had pages load with 1 ad instead of 4 - sometimes 2 ads. It's a new ad-serving technique - and the images don't always look so pretty as a result!

Hi Smartzville, like your site and liked the pictures you chose beside the Ads. I have a similar set up on one of my sites and noticed the same thing as you, sometimes just one ad shows up messing up the look of my page. I (today) changed the pictures on my site from 4 to 2 bigger pictures, one on either side of the ad box (using same size as you) am going to keep a close eye on my results. Perhaps you could try the same?

Regards, Whoops

markp-r
08-24-2005, 05:17 PM
Because of a recommendation from another member, I decided to contact Google and ask them about the images I use above my Google ads. I was pleased with their response. You can view the details here:

http://www.adsensechat.com/showthread.php?p=857#post857

I strongly recommend that if you are in doubt as to your compliance in using images, contact Google directly.

plugandplay
08-24-2005, 06:46 PM
Explore My Drug Testing Information Pages... " to introduce the adsense code

It doesn't seem to me that the issue is "graphics or not".

Some may be OK with Google. As was said earlier check with Google if in doubt.

But the Explore My Drug Testing Information Pages... " to introduce the adsense code is a clear violation (rather picture or not) they are saying to people "click these ads".

When Google see this they may pull the owners account.

rowelle
08-25-2005, 07:54 PM
I've just recently started implementing images *beside* ads to see how that works out.

Wild Birds (http://www.attractwildbirds.com/wild-birds.htm)

One problem I'm seeing with this technique is that google has changed the way it is serviing ads. I've had pages load with 1 ad instead of 4 - sometimes 2 ads. It's a new ad-serving technique - and the images don't always look so pretty as a result!

Laura

That is so freakin adorable! And yeah, when the number of ads change, it makes the images look out of place just like with the images above the leaderboard and above adlinks. I really like what you did with your ads with the cute little birdies on the side. I must try that too! ..not with birds though, cuz my site is about something else. :)

dragonsage
08-25-2005, 08:25 PM
I've just recently started implementing images *beside* ads to see how that works out.

The site is only a few months old so not many visitors yet, so I can't comment on effectiveness. And, there's still much work to be done on the site...

Wild Birds (http://www.attractwildbirds.com/wild-birds.htm)
Laura
You might want to read Google's policies with respect to popups that interfere with navigation. Your popup remained in front of the site and part of until I actually clicked on it's X -- which is not cool, since that might not really be a "close it" X but might instead be a "install adware now" X.

flyer
08-26-2005, 12:46 AM
The bird site looks nice. I think even if all 4 ads are shown, the little bird pix are a nice addition that will draw the viewer's attention & are probably completely within the rules. (In fact, if they DON'T line up with the individual ads, you have a stronger case in that regard.)

I don't see a popup- just a slide-in ad. Do the TOS mention those?

Ken
08-27-2005, 12:10 AM
Here's and email I got from Google when I asked about placing graphics next to adsense ads.

"AdSense publishers may place general graphics next to our ads. However, we suggest that publisher refrain from this activity because the graphics may encourage your users to click on the ads that you're serving through AdSense. If users click on ads without the intention of converting to customers, advertiser costs can be artificially inflated. Therefore, such activity is in violation of our program policies."

Mike McBride
08-29-2005, 01:13 PM
I had not considered the little phrase above the images. That's a great idea...

Josen

Josen,

Actually, that's NOT a great idea, as labelling Adsense ads like that is against the Adsense TOS. You are not allowed to do anything like that in order to prompt visitors to click on the ads. Better safe than sorry . . .

All the best,
Mike McBride

davisec52
08-29-2005, 01:21 PM
Laura,

Great looking site (Wild Birds). Where, if I may ask, did you get the template and graphics?

Evan

Smartzville
09-01-2005, 04:13 PM
Dragonsage, dang I never thought of that - or I knew and had forgotten. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

This is a great forum...we can not only help each other with ideas, but also with staying within google's rules!

Thanks again!

Sam Freedom
09-03-2005, 12:28 AM
If I'm reading this correctly, it seems
as if Google really doesn't want any
kind of possible misrepresentation of
their advertising. And they realize
that it's really going to be an epidemic
that they can't do much about short
of turning into a Paypal-like Gestapo,
so it seems they are compromising
and instead of saying "Don't do it."
They're saying, "Just make sure
visitors don't think they're OUR pictures."

Sounds rather simple and fair to me.

Sam