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Indianpimp
07-20-2006, 12:50 AM
sorry sorry sorrry sorry sorry

ricklomas
07-20-2006, 03:35 AM
Shall I rewrite your post for you?
"I have just made a blog and I have posted one article on it about credit repair, therefore the adsense ads should have quite a high value, so please click them and earn me some money"
This is seriously against the Adsense TOS, the only greater crime being clicking your own ads! I'm not slagging you off (infact your post was quite clever, it made me click one!), just warning you, as there is a lot of money to be made with Adsense and you don't want to get a lifetime ban do you?
I'm making a nice living now, mainly from www.motorhomesdirect.co.uk, which is quite a niche market and my own www.ricklomas.com which is my sandbox site for testing out obscure keyphrases such as 'remove DRM from WMV'.
Looking in my portfolio I would expect my highest paying site to be www.british-loans.co.uk but in actual fact I think it is www.machineplastering.co.uk as this is a very quirky niche, where I have the feeling that two adwords advertisers are competing on the word 'plastering'.
Take my advice and do things within the Adsense TOS and you will get clever and then start to earn the big money.
Regards
Rick Lomas
First Online Dating (http://www.1stonlinedating.com/online-dating.htm)
Oh yeah and don't forget to plug your own sites in your signature (see below)

Reprobate
07-20-2006, 08:02 AM
Shall I rewrite your post for you?
"I have just made a blog and I have posted one article on it about credit repair, therefore the adsense ads should have quite a high value, so please click them and earn me some money"
I saw his post a few hours ago but had to go and do a few things but you've pretty much summed up what I would have said.

Indianpimp, you are a scammer.

You lie, you cheat, and you're trying damn hard to steal.

Others may encourage you to do the right thing, but I won't. Keep doing what you're doing. The sooner Google catch up with you, ban you and reimburse the advertisers that paid for clicks the better.

ricklomas
07-20-2006, 12:26 PM
Others may encourage you to do the right thing, but I won't. Keep doing what you're doing. The sooner Google catch up with you, ban you and reimburse the advertisers that paid for clicks the better.

Actually you are sooo right, I just remember what I was like when I first got an adsense account on 30 September 2003, it was so tempting to give a couple of my ads a click whenever I saw a computer connected to the 'net. But of course in those days I earnt less than a grand in the first year, so being banned would be no big deal. Now in 2006 it would be a massive deal! And I do everything I possibly can to stay within the TOS.

Anyway old indianplonker seems to have gone quiet:)

Anyway today I started a non Google Adsense site, www.everydaywinner.co.uk it's a horse racing tips by email and SMS site, hopefully getting revenue in a more traditional way.

So that's another fish to fry!

Indianpimp
07-20-2006, 12:46 PM
Sorry guys, you guys are right about me its just im new to this and I dont know where this is going, i think i am going to just cancle my account because im not getting hits or anything, i mean i have the high paying keywords and i have my other site at www.indiangamingnetwork.com and bring lots of traffic, but i still dont make anything. What i really want is some tips, thanks guys for being helpful and sorry .

chammock
07-20-2006, 02:56 PM
[QUOTE=ricklomas]I'm making a nice living now, mainly from www.motorhomesdirect.co.uk, which is quite a niche market and my own www.ricklomas.com which is my sandbox site for testing out obscure keyphrases such QUOTE]

Rick, I don't see any ads on your motor home site. Am I missing something?

ricklomas
07-20-2006, 03:18 PM
Ahh yes you are...search for 'motorhome hire <any town in england>' for example, 'motorhome hire stafford' and you will arrive at http://www.motorhomesdirect.co.uk/motorhome-hire/Staffordshire/ whuch is a bit of an ugly page, but I get about a 21% click through on that blue leaderboard.
I have used a similar technique here http://www.holidayhomedirect.co.uk/holiday-cottage/Staffordshire/ but that doesn't seem to work so well.
I can't put the ads on the standard UK pages as it annoys the guy I made the site for (it is my site, but he pays me commission on sales that come through the site), but they do feature on pages where he doesn't have a product.
e.g.
for example http://www.motorhomesdirect.co.uk/motorhome-hire-usa.htm
and
more profitably http://www.motorhomesdirect.co.uk/cars-to-tow-behind-motorhome.htm

hope this clears things up
Rick

chammock
07-20-2006, 03:32 PM
hope this clears things up
Rick


It definitely does. I have a client with a site getting about 3000 unique visitors a month. It is perfect for AdSense and I have yet to get her to let me put some ads on there for her. I am not looking for a commission but just want to see how the site would perform given the decent amount of visitors.

ricklomas
07-20-2006, 04:00 PM
It definitely does. I have a client with a site getting about 3000 unique visitors a month. It is perfect for AdSense and I have yet to get her to let me put some ads on there for her. I am not looking for a commission but just want to see how the site would perform given the decent amount of visitors.

I have lovely traffic to my site, I just did a screen shot
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=194191296&size=o
Rick:)

Reprobate
07-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Actually you are sooo right, I just remember what I was like when I first got an adsense account on 30 September 2003, it was so tempting to give a couple of my ads a click whenever I saw a computer connected to the 'net.

I think the thought crosses everyone's mind. And I wouldn't hold it against you if you had.

Sorry guys, you guys are right about me its just im new to this and I dont know where this is going, i think i am going to just cancle my account because im not getting hits or anything, i mean i have the high paying keywords and i have my other site at www.indiangamingnetwork.com and bring lots of traffic, but i still dont make anything. What i really want is some tips, thanks guys for being helpful and sorry .

I didn't jump down worstofboston's (http://www.adsensechat.com/showthread.php?t=3274) throat because she didn't allude to doing the wrong thing or wanting to do the wrong thing but presenting a 'what if' situation. She didn't misrepresent herself either.

I've only ever clicked on one of my own ads. Unintentionally. In fact it was just a few weeks ago when I was testing the new navigation on one of my sites. I honestly slipped and the click went on an ad unit.

I emailed Adsense and informed them of it. I copied and pasted the URL of the site I ended up at and told them to reimburse them that click and take the earnings from my account.

Much like worstofboston's thought process I thought to myself... if I'm at a library and I went to one of my sites, I could click on an ad. But at what cost?

A few clicks here, a few clicks there... next you know you'll be going out of your way when you're anywhere near an internet terminal just to cheat the system.


The cost is two-fold. Honesty is one. The other is your time.

Time which could be better spent legitimately promoting your website. Time spent creating new content. Time invested in improving your layout and design.

It's perfectly natural to consider ways in which to improve and increase your revenue or save money (whether it be adsense, using energy efficient globes, changing banks because of high fees), and the more creative a person is the more 'interesting' those ideas can get.

I could never trust my friends or family to click on my adsense ads. Firstly I'd be asked 'but isn't that dishonest?' but even if it did go that far and they would be likely to 'help out' I'm sure someone will be far too generous and click like a mad mofo thinking they were helping me out.

I got an email a while back from a friend who had implemented adsense into his site and he sent out an email to EVERYONE on his contact list, asking them to stop by and click on ads.

I hit reply and told him straight away to email everyone and tell them NOT to.

I pointed out just how it could go wrong. The email could very well have gone out to many people who would have complied, and they would have gone to the homepage and clicked on three ads.

Straight up.

Think about that: 300% CTR.

I would have heard the alarm bells from here.

People can very easily make money with Adsense in a legitimate and honest way.

If someone has low CTR, they can learn through experimentation, and reading threads in this forum, asking questions and I'd also suggest buying Joel's book.

If people have no, little or poor traffic to their site, there are plenty of ways in which to change that. It's not an overnight fix. The best way is to read, learn and again experiment. I know how to get LOTS of traffic. I could do it right now. It can cost me anywhere between $20 and $50 and I can get 100K+ visitors quite easily.

Of course it could be crap traffic. From Asia. I'm not entirely sure how the brokers get the traffic themselves, but I do know that it's legitimate traffic, but poor quality traffic.

My unique visitors would soar, but my CTR would plunge.

Adsense newbies shouldn't be so anxious to make big bucks fast. Take it slow. Learn the basics.

And don't think that this forum is an opportunity to get traffic to your site so you can earn money. We will visit your site to critique it, but don't rely or expect us to click on your ads.

If you want traffic then go to the library.

But not to click on ads from the internet connected computers. Put up a flyer on the community notice board. Instead of one or two fraudulent clicks, you may end up with a dozen or more legitimate new visitors. :D

ricklomas
07-20-2006, 09:22 PM
Well, I guess that just about concludes this thread, you said it all.
Very wise words
It's 02:22 here now so I'm off to bed.
BTW
If anyone is in Leighton Buzzard, England
My band "The Harper Brothers" is playing at The Stag on Saturday night.
1 Heath Road, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, LU7 8AB
here's a map (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=492271&y=225945&z=0&ar=Y)
If you can't get to the gig download the album in mp3 here (http://www.serrechevalier.org/mp3/live-****e-at-the-grotte.htm) - It's FREE!!
Rick

Sbabb
07-21-2006, 12:46 PM
Sorry guys, you guys are right about me its just im new to this and I dont know where this is going, i think i am going to just cancle my account because im not getting hits or anything, i mean i have the high paying keywords and i have my other site at www.indiangamingnetwork.com and bring lots of traffic, but i still dont make anything. What i really want is some tips, thanks guys for being helpful and sorry .

I'm not sure what you mean by "cancel your account." If you're talking about your AdSense account, you only get one of those. Cancelling it puts you out of the AdSense business. If you're talking about that particular site, that's different.

Best advice: IGNORE THE HIGH-PAYING KEYWORD LISTS!

Everyone sees them and everyone builds sites for them. And then you end up competing against millions of other pages for search engine position. If you're on the 238th page of search results, you're not going to get any traffic or clicks. That's the "secret drawback" to the high-paying keyword lists.

A better move is to find much more targeted keywords that get much fewer searches, but also have much fewer pages competing against you in the search engines. See my suggestions at http://www.adsensechat.com/showthread.php?t=3259 for more details.


Scott

tonyrocks
07-21-2006, 11:35 PM
What a nice thread. The newbie, the realist, the no-holds-barredist. Good to keep things inline. Temptation of self adsensing...would make a great movie :)

Reprobate
07-22-2006, 11:59 PM
What a nice thread. The newbie, the realist, the no-holds-barredist. Good to keep things inline. Temptation of self adsensing...would make a great movie :)
I'm still trying to figure out which of the three is me :D

tonyrocks
07-23-2006, 12:18 AM
hehe...You'll find out in my next book. just kidding :)

wm8c
08-04-2006, 08:34 AM
hehe...You'll find out in my next book. just kidding :)
Just wanted to say that this thread has been very interesting to read and I can't say that about all of them. There are a lot of points of view stated here, the only one of which I disagreed with was the original that started the whole thing (the tactics to get people to click). I guess for me in an nutshell, what I'm learning and have learned is that honesty is always still the best policy.

Cheating gets you no where except banned, although I have nothing against "stealthy" uses of implementation and employ it myself with a link bar that works well, but stay within the rules because you sleep better at night not worrying about whether you account will still be active in the morning.

Find those Niches, that's where the money is and if the competition is low enough, the sky's the limit!

adsensemaster
08-04-2006, 10:28 AM
This page brings around 30% of my revenue with les number of clicks

http://googleadmagic.com/highpayingkeywords/freecreditreport.php

I am getting very high paing ads - really works